Oil Pulling: An ancient Ayurvedic treatment, or is it?

Oil pulling is a new hippie dippie thing to the commercial consumer yoga, spiritual and health world. It originates from Ayurveda but what its benefits are being touted as is completely blown out of proportion. What is being claimed has no reference in Ayurveda making oil pulling definitely not Ayurvedic in the techniques and terms it is being defined in today in America. Claims of liver detoxing and all sorts of ridiculous statements are being said and sold about what it does. People are using all kinds of oils, such as coconut oil without knowing the details and importance of the treatment being done correctly. It is important to understand the deep knowledge behind this because it originates from Ayurveda and without the details your ignorance is gonna harm you, really. Just because you don’t feel it or see it today, doesn’t mean it isn’t happening. Ayurveda doesn’t work in the paradigm that the American mind is use too.

This post is to inform you, what others are not. Dissolve the ignorance that is abounding around this “oil pulling” fad, and well as information on Ayurveda, since this is where it comes from, but without stating western views “pretending” them to be Ayurveda. What I am writing is not subjective, it is not MY opinion or MY view about oil pulling.

Kavala or “Oil Pulling” is from Ayurveda and has been around for over 5000 years recorded in texts like Charaka Samhita, Sushruta Samhita, Bhavaprakasha and more. It does not do as all the web sites and articles have claimed, it cleanses your liver about as much as it can give you a pedicure.
Kavala is the swishing of warm (not hot) sesame oil or water (yes, water can be used too as well as other substances for specific reasons*) in your mouth until tears develop in the eyes and the nose runs (not 20 minutes as every web site and blog tells you). There are detailed diagnostic SIGNS and SYMPTOMS of correct treatment of everything in Ayurveda. Of course, they are not being taught in all of those articles on Mind Body Green and other websites and blogs because the lack of knowledge of Ayurveda and they just hopping on a mass marketing bandwagon. We simply destroy knowledge with our superficiality and sales, thus also destroying the results that are touted in the texts of Ayurveda. Kavala is not just putting oil in your mouth and swishing.
There is dietary conditions that must be followed including eating a light diet (laghu aahar) as per Ayurveda, not western nutrition ideas of a light diet. Salads are not light food and not raw food either as it would be highly contraindicated to this treatment. To not follow these guidelines can and will hinder the touted results and can aid in the creating disease or at minimum bad repercussions that create an imbalance that can turn to disease in time. There is not a blog big enough to give you the knowledge to understand all the details behind the whys and hows of Ayurvedic treatments, they are specific to many many variable factors and individual to the person. Ayurveda does not work from the same paradigm that the Western paradigm works from. There is much more at play in Ayurveda than the Western view. Ayurveda comes from a paradigm of holistic quantum logic, Western thought comes from a classical Newtonian physics and related biological considerations of compartmentalization. This is a huge part of why Ayurveda has been misunderstood in its superficial education in the West. The Western mind doesn’t like change and your paradigm needs to change to understand Ayurveda. It is not based upon simply the material gross world but works with the subtle and the gross. They work together, they are one. The subtle is what we are terribly confused about in the West. Is it real or is it not. Many even think they can make the subtle world anything they want it to be. Also, the scientific empirical reasoning method does not have any container for this. (if you don’t believe me and think your 200 hour certified yoga teacher knows more, just go to Ayurveda in America on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayurveda_in_America) and read how badly Ayurveda is destroyed in America by commericalization. 24 weekends and you have a Masters degree in Ayurveda with no past experience or education at several of the “institutions”.

This post has stirred a ton of reaction. Most of which I find interesting. How can people have judgement over something they don’t understand and have never studied? I would ask you leave your opinions at the door and be open to learning something. If your are not, why bother to read further?

To jump right into it, there are negative reactions happening out there from Oil Pulling with coconut oil. Most silent. But more and more are starting to be found on the bottom of those article pages where you can comment and they will start to come out as this “oil pulling’ is getting more crazy/popular daily. Here is one negative reaction and thank you to the people commenting that also have had negative reactions. http://sirenedelamer.wordpress.com/2013/08/04/less-than-pleasant-side-effects-of-oil-pulling-with-coconut-oil-and-update/

Yes, at one time not long ago people, the masses, thought the world was flat. Some still do.

Where did this treatment Kavala come from:
Ayurveda is the oldest recorded science/medicinal system. It is a science based in natural law and living a healthy beneficial life. Living in coherence to those rules of nature and the cosmos, to create balance of what makes up the subtle and gross, the mind and body and soul. In creating this health one is able to perceive their imperishable, immutable soul and to see their true self. It is not a theory nor spiritual woo woo stuff. Nor is it philosophical conjecture or the latest American diet fad that is doomed to change with short passing of time. Ayurveda is an over 10,000 year time tested science that has a spiritual, not religious, undertone…as we all are souls, and we all have a bodies. It is for the benefit of mankind and it is nondenominational and universal, it is not just Indian. It works everywhere on the planet if one really understands the foundations and how to apply them. Ayurvedic medicine’s Bachelor of Ayurvedic Medicine and Surgery (B.A.M.S.)  (it’s entry level lowest education) doctorate is a 5.5 year full time medical school education in allopathy as well as Ayurveda. There are many many Ayurveda hospitals in India. Yes, real regular hospital using Ayurveda. It is India’s classic medicinal system and if you think their spiritual sciences dealing with the mind and consciousness are deep well think about the understanding of the body. It is where allopathic medicine gets its roots and since allopathic medicine is from Greek medicine and Greek medicine obviously was created (not influenced) from Ayurveda. (read about King Ashoka for reference to how much of the knowledge of India was spread throughout the world (https://www.google.com/search?q=king+ashoka+and+the+spread+of+ayurveda&oq=king+ashoka+and+the+spread+of+ayurveda&aqs=chrome..69i57.7622j0j4&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=91&ie=UTF-8)) and just to blow your mind, even genetics is explained in Charaka Samhita, one of the main texts of Ayurveda from 5000 years ago. Wow. This is way before Mendel Genetics came into being in the early 1900′s.

Ayurveda is way more advanced than Western allopathic medicine due to its understanding of the human body. Its ability to diagnose surpasses western science due to its lack of compartmentalization and limiting scope and mindset of always trying to find the smallest component that is a cause or solution, but it rather sees a greater causality to imbalance and what causes disease. It also treats without dangerous side effects when used with its knowledge. It is a total understanding of nature and how to live within nature. In the West, we take small pieces of things much like “Oil Pulling” and state that it does miracles. It doesn’t, sorry kids. Then we change it and take it from the original platform to market it and sell it, like the doctor quoted later selling his coconut oil that for that price must be cold pressed between the legs of virgins or something. Oil Pulling is used in conjunction with the rest of an Ayurvedic life, which that life is absolutely not a Vata, Pitta, and Kapha diet plan like what has being sold to you in the West. Ayurveda is not a pill. It is not a list of what to eat and what not to eat. Infact, that will cause damage to you as well if you follow it. There is so much more to understand about Ayurveda but……..

Back to Kavala…………

Kavala is to be used as per the individual’s need of it. It is an actual treatment in Ayurveda, much more than just putting oil in your mouth and swishing. The temperature of the oil or water has an effect on the results and is also dependent upon the individual and their balance/imbalance/health. It is even done cold when indications apply. It is used to mitigate kapha in the mouth, generally. Bodaka Kapha is the saliva. An imbalance of this can create cataracts, salivary stones, as well as a ton of other diseases. Ayurveda is not used allopathically to treat symptoms but in context of holism of a lifestyle or life in many variables and ways. Every action has effects, this is what needs to be understood.
Oil Pulling is only used for “cleansing the mouth, thirst (trsna, which is a disease in Ayurveda), loss of taste (arruchi, another disease), diseases of the teeth, and it bestows lightness in the mouth.” Reference: Bhavaprakash Chapter 5.31 – 35. Bhavaprakasha is one of the original texts circa 14th century.
Oil pulling for daily use done with warm sesame oil, not coconut oil. Why? Coconut oil has qualities of being heavy, sweet, and cold and will create more kapha. This is seen by the thickening and stickiness of the saliva, bad breath, loss of taste, sinus congestion, colds, headache, insomnia and several other results from using some substance with the wrong qualities. The main reason for gum disease being so prevalent in the US is that all of our toothpastes are sweet. Sweet taste is anabolic. Obviously, if you eat alot of sweet, you gain weight. The gums therefore become loose and fat with using sweet toothpastes. Funny thing to think of, with all the chemicals in todays toothpastes to fight gum disease and keep healthy teeth, why is it not working? Get a toothpaste like Red made by Dabur or even much better is to switch to an Ayurvedic tooth powder like Vicco. Warning that the taste is bitter pungent and astringent, not sweet but having health isn’t about you feeding your desires and ego now is it. Those three tastes tighten the gums and strengthen the teeth and create health of the whole mouth.
Since the mouth is the site of bodaka kapha (thought of as saliva in western terms), anyone knowing the basic fundamentals of Ayurveda would never advise coconut oil being used daily. Specially in springtime and especially on overcast, foggy or rainy days when there is no sun (all understood from ayurveda but with no coorelation in the Western world). Other oils can be used when specifically directed by an Ayurvedic “DOCTOR”. They would then give you a medicated oil to use for certain reasons and certain treatment.

(What is saliva and how does it link to digestion?   http://trueayurveda.wordpress.com/2014/03/04/lets-talk-smoothies-and-juicing-you-think-they-are-healthy/  )

Using coconut oil will create problems with dental, bad breath (as has been proven from comments in several forum’s just search for them or read the comment lower about getting a cold), cavities, gum disease, and a whole lot more due to the qualities that the coconut oil has. It does not share the qualities of sesame oil. Sesame oil has a subtle qualities (sukshma) and is the reason for it being the only oil to be used as well as it is heating (ushna) whereas coconut is cold (shita) in potency. Coconut oil is also clogging due to how heavy and gross it is. Cold, heavy, gross, sweet will all create an imbalance of kapha. Although coconut oil has been touted for its healing properties, when you understand Ayurveda, everything becomes a medicine and healing when it is used properly. The piece that is lost to Western eyes is to whom, when is it used, why is it used, when it is used, and how is it used. This is the biggest flaw of Western nutrition and sciences. Once again, as you are an individual and need an individual treatment, so is coconut oil with its own qualities. What will be medicine for one is poison for another due to this. Even two people having the same disease can be in need of different treatments and different medicines. Now really think about this for a moment with the pop health culture and certain foods and substances being cool and new.

For those of you sending the comments in harsh reaction to this information or my writing about using coconut oil or how any of this could create any reaction, try doing this oil pulling twice or three times a day. See what happens to you. You need your empirical proof…. you will get it.

Kavala is of four kinds- unctuous, pacifying, purifying and healing. Which one do you think you are doing? No clue, huh? Never heard about that even from your favorite Ayurvedic doctor/teacher from India right? Thought it was just stick oil in your mouth and swish, huh? Oils with medicinal drugs are prepared in a special way for a specific treatment. There has to be a whole preparation procedure that is done by fomenting and sudation of the throat, cheeks, and forehead prior to this treatment.  The treatment is done for a certain specific time, until the eyes water and the nose runs. Not 20 minutes like stated in these articles in the masses by the masses. It is individual. Doing longer and there will be and excessive reaction from the treatment creating an imbalance that leads to disease, too little and there will not be the results from the treatment created and possible other side effects. Again, everyone is an individual so the length of time will be different for everyone. There are signs of when the treatment is done properly as well as symptoms of it not done properly which will lead to complications and disease. Really let it sink in… there are many complications that come from the treatment not being done properly as well as who should be doing it or not. Why is it that these people that are writing these article don’t care or they just don’t know? Just as an example, by doing tongue scraping you can give yourself lock jaw. This is why details matter.

Other posts you might be interested in reading:
http://trueayurveda.wordpress.com/2013/12/16/you-and-your-gut-health/

http://trueayurveda.wordpress.com/2013/12/12/are-you-ready-for-the-newest-ayurvedic-detox-diet/

http://trueayurveda.wordpress.com/2014/01/16/what-you-dont-know-about-detoxing-that-is-extremely-dangerous-to-your-health/

http://trueayurveda.wordpress.com/2013/12/07/the-need-for-proper-diagnostical-examination-of-health-and-why-just-doing-stuff-because-it-is-popular-is-dangerous/

http://trueayurveda.wordpress.com/2012/04/18/t-happens-the-bodys-natural-cleansing-system-why-do-a-morning-regimen/

http://trueayurveda.wordpress.com/2013/12/29/no-such-thing-as-a-vata-pitta-or-kapha-diet-in-ayurveda/
http://trueayurveda.wordpress.com/2014/02/01/what-is-healthy-what-is-disease/

Modern research methods:
By taking human beings as aggregate groups and testing ideas and substances we find empirical evidence by the outcomes. In Ayurveda, seeing from the view of the individual, rules out any research template that fits the western research model of looking at a symptoms of disease, components or studying the particular pieces and then applying it to that group. It is opposite. This is also why Ayurveda is a much deeper and detailed science than modern medicine. There are far to many variables in an individual that makes them that individual to say that this technique or medicine works for everyone. Hence why “all” western medicines have huge amounts of side effects and don’t work for everyone. This is where all Western medicine falls apart. This is also why the western science keeps proving correct what it has stated before as incorrect or vice vs. Take soy for an example. Although Western nutritional science is littered with many many more examples. Soy was said to be the healthiest and best for women’s and men’s hormones as Western scientific research had proved in the early 2000′s. Then just 7 years later, and after a huge amount of money was made on all kinds of soy protein products, it became the worst for both. Why? Modern Western research. Many parts of the rest of the world continue to eat soy (as they always have, daily) with no health problems or hormone problems. How can that be? Think about it. What is the difference?… America and the excess, quantity, consumption, as well as the fear of mortality that is driving us.

Try putting allopathic medicine to the test of Ayurvedic research and reasoning methodology and understanding and most of it falls flat on its face. Allopathic medicines deal only with superficial symptoms and do not deal with the underlying root problem which leaves that root problem to complicate into another disease and another pathway in time. All the drugs have a long list of side effects which is the imbalance that they create by taking them.

If you are interested, here is two peer journal reviewed articles on the subject of Ayurvedic Research explaining how empirical evidence based research fails…..

http://www.jaim.in/temp/JAyurvedaIntegrMed44198-1078177_025941.pdf

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3405450/

An example:
Let me use an example to explain. Say they someone is using coconut oil for this oil pulling. They already have a kapha and gurutva (heaviness) imbalance as you have thick saliva that is (tandula) stringy and they also have the beginning of cataracts in their eyes. Now, take another person who is vata imbalanced and has dry mouth, ama (toxicity due to improper intake, digestion, and metabolization of food stuff), constipation, and poor digestion. Neither of these two people are going to have the same effects from doing the oil pulling. Most likely both of these people are going to create a new disease by using coconut oil. The first person of a kapha imbalance could possible create a cold or flu or respiratory problem and will definitely worsen the cataracts for sure, yet they will have no correlation in their western mind to see the oil pulling as the cause and neither would their Doctor that then gives them antibiotics for it because they think it might be viral. Furthermore, now they have dangerous and costly surgery on their eyes as well as creation of other diseases. This is all in the name of trying to be healthy, following the “new and cool health guidance” in the masses. Lets say the vata imbalanced person did not have the digestive capacity or strength (yes, I know it makes no sense from a western view) in their system to deal with the oil pulling and it just made the whole system shut down further and the coldness of the coconut oil just created more imbalanced vata. Of course these are completely made up examples. Had it been sesame, it would be different. It most likely would have created health for both. Sesame, once again, is heating and subtle so it would bring down the imbalance of both kapha and vata. Let add more real world example to the complexity, these two people also have their original state or prakriti and then the imbalance spoke of. Due to that original state it can throw another complication into the mix. Say that vata imbalanced person was of a kapha original state or even more complex a kapha/vata original state with a vata imbalance. Wow, now you have the hardest person to work with and using coconut oil definitely just created a new disease. I hope you now understand why no empirical evidence can be gained from any study of Ayurveda because it does not work within the Western paradigm of one size fits all and to do so it to treat it as allopathy, symptom chasing using a shotgun. (maybe you followed what I just stated or maybe not, this is how complicated it gets and why it is detailed and individualized, read other posts mentioned above for more on those details)

Ayurveda does not use a general treatments blindly for everyone. There is no vata, pitta, and kapha diet plans in real Ayurveda. That is purely a watered down diet plan that they are calling ayurveda. It is not ayurveda though. There are some very general guidelines that are beneficial for everyone but beyond this everything becomes individualized.

Contraindications as per the original texts:
Oil Pulling can and will create disease if used by someone that has has “poisoning, fainting disease, alcoholism, depletion, TB, bleeding diseases, low clotting factor, inflammation of the eyes, constipation, and depletion of wastes.” (any correlations to these diseases caused by kavala is hardly to be understood in Western medicine but pretty obvious from view of Ayurveda) In that, the paradigm that this treatment comes from, a totally different culture with different lifestyle and incredibly different ways of eating as well as what is eaten, many more variables are brought into the contraindications and/or the results of doing this treatment.

A few general signs of you creating a new disease by doing oil pulling incorrect with an oil that will clog would be bad breath, itchy eyes, new sinus problems, congestion, colds, foggy head, heavy head, headaches, sleep changes, loss of taste, loss in clarity of vision, and the list goes on. I hope you get that by trying all these new fangled “health” and cleanse fads, you really are playing Russian roulette. It is not like you can just stop doing this stuff and everything returns to how it was. If you create a disease by this, it will be incredibly hard to treat, specially by a Western lens that doesn’t even correlate the symptom with what you have done in the first place. Say you have created allergies by doing this with coconut oil in spring and where you live there is no sun in springtime. Antihistamines are not going to help this at all. The popular thing to do would be to take antibiotics but what help would they be for allergies?

So, the bigger problem and the real statement here to make …… think about this for a second. As this misinformation is presented in those articles out in the public, definitely in the attempt to be helpful and of innocence (and not just sales and marketing and completely irresponsibility), what about the people that are being affected adversely and being harmed, even unknowingly…….. what about them? You. You people out there. Your just trying to do what is good for your health right? Who is writing the articles? Where is it being published? Another article I read was written by someone who makes jewelry for a living and happens to be a self proclaimed yogini. Another one was written by a wedding photographer. Come on people, wake up.  Would you trust you house to be built by a wedding photographer? Trust her to do your dentistry? Then why your health? Why is it okay for anyone to write anything they want about anything in the health and spiritual world of the West. America would not allow someone without the knowledge and correct education to practice law right? Why do they have a national bar exam and Ayurveda practitioners simply pay a membership fee with no ethical or educational standards to get membership? 

Also, do you think for one moment that these people are going to take any responsibility for what happens to you?

This is the health and spiritual world of today. Did you know you were being lied to about that outrageously expensive ghee your buying in the store too or how to make it on your own with a stick of butter? Not real ghee either. Over priced clarified butter that had a recording of a mantra playing when it was melted from a block of butter, wow, how spiritual. Buying it might even make you enlightened. http://trueayurveda.wordpress.com/wp-admin/post.php?post=20&action=edit You can just throw a stick of butter in a pot and melt it down and say “OM” over it and get the same results. Not ghee. Just blessed butter. :)

This is what the Western world is doing to Ayurveda and you. Really. Then they do their research upon this wrong knowledge. Thats where things get messy.

Translating Ayurveda to Western science isn’t easy as it is a different paradigm and Ayurveda explains, diagnoses, and treats much deeper in so many ways, there is so much detail to Ayurveda. It is not a simple thing to understand with a western mind.  Kavala will never be understood from Western terms for what it is, why to do it, when to do it, who should do it, how it should be done, etc…. without the lens of Western medicine is dropped and picking up one of the context and education of Ayurveda, improper knowledge, education, and translation can only occur from this and the result is that people get hurt, Ayurveda gets a very bad name, and the general public is none the wiser or healthier.

The following is taken straight from actual text of Ashtanga Hrydaya so that there is no BS or poetic rights in what to use or how put into this. (notice the lack of any mention of COCONUT OIL and trust me, they got coconuts galore in Ayurveda. Specially in Southern India where this text originates from. This says volumes and is even more proof for you that coconut oil is not used in Kavala. Trust me, they would have used it if it was proper.)

The hows whens and whys of all of this.

  • Gandusha is Holding of large quantities of medicated oils in the mouth while Kavala is Swishing of oils

  • There are four types of Gandusha: Snigda, Shamana, Shodana, and Ropana. The first three are indicated in vitiation of doshas and the later in ulcer.

  • Snigda or oil holding is done with fats processed with sweet, sour, and salty tastes. Shamana is done with fats processed in bitter astringent and sweet tastes. Shodana is done with fats processed in bitter, acidic, sour and salty drugs. Ropana is done with astringent and bitter.

  • *Fat, milk, honey, water, vinegar, alcohol, soup, cow’s urine, and cereal stock (notice no coconut oil) all can be used as well along with paste of medicines, with or without cooking, in desired temperature, and as per condition.

  • For loose teeth, sensitive teeth, and diseases of the oral cavity due to vitiation of vata, Gandusha can be done with luke warm water or cold water mixed with paste of sesame seeds.

  • For daily use gandusha can be done with sesame oil or meat soup.

  • Ghee or Milk can be used with inflammatory conditions with burning or scalding sensations, exogenous conditions like injuries, poisons, burns and alkalis and fire

  • With honey (old honey, not american processed and cooked honey. Honey must be astringent!!!) it creates clarity of the mouth, heals ulcers, and soothes burning sensations and thirst

  • With cereal stock it alleviates distaste and sediment, coating and hallitosis. Used cold and without salt it alleviates dryness of mouth.

  • With mild water it instantly disintegrates the aggravation of kapha and with warm water brings lightness to the mouth.

Only to be done:

  • When the sun is shining and the day is devoid of breeze

  • After fomenting and massaging the shoulders and neck

  • Retain the liquid in the mouth until the mouth gets full of kapha (mucous in this case), and the eyes and nose have secretions

Filling the mouth completely and not having movement is Gandusha. Kavala is otherwise.

Diseases of manya (the occipital region, where the occipital bone joins the spine, head, ears, mouth, and eyes.) Praseka (diseases of throat, dryness of throat, dryness of mouth) Hrllasa (nausea), stupor, anorexia, rhinorrhoea, are specifically cureable with Kavala.

 

Further references are:

Charaka Samhita Chikitsa Sthana Ch 26 Trimarmia: Afflictions of Vital Organs
This section is about the treatment of mouth diseases.

Ashtanga Hrdaya Sutrasthana 2, Chapter 22 Gandushavidya: Norms of Buccal Retention etc.

Bhela Samhita Chapter 21: Diseases of Head

Bhavaprakash Chapter 5.31 – 35

 

The last bit in this article about your gum and teeth health (and probably more important and pertinent):

Every Ayurvedic practitioner should know that your gums are nothing more than an extension of the muscle tissue of your system. If your gums are receding it is an imbalance in your muscle tissue or what you are doing to your mouth, like sweet toothpaste…. is destroying your gum health. Your gum and tooth health has more to do with your digestion and the state of the balance of your tissues health than any coconut oil pulling nonsense will ever do for you.

Your teeth health is dependent upon the health of your bone tissue in the same way as your muscle to your gums. Yes, what you use to clean them and what you eat will have an effect but the main state of your teeth and gums health is not going to be found thru oil pulling.

Example of experience: I have had several clients that have had stained teeth. One in particular was complaining about her teeth and didn’t want to use any dark toothpaste or tooth powder because she thought it was staining her teeth. After cleaning up her diet and strengthening her digestive system we worked on rebuilding her bone strength. In no time at all, the whiteness of her teeth and the shine came back to her teeth.

This is not a rare experience either.

Ayurveda is not a bunch of simplified treatments like oil pulling that is just used or done haphazardly. It is a deep and extremely detailed science. It takes years to study and understand.

17 thoughts on “Oil Pulling: An ancient Ayurvedic treatment, or is it?

  1. I believe you’re writing a lot of interesting things, and you probably have more knowledge about this than most westerners. I just started oil pulling with coconut oil and got a cold. Imagine me reading your post, it made quite an impression. But, why are you so agitated? You write so many important things, and you seem so angry. It’s so difficult to not feel undermined, to not feel stupid when reading your posts. We’re not stupid for not thinking right or for being westerners, we’re doing the best we can with the knowledge we have. Aren’t you from the west yourself? You know what they say, the worst anti-smokers are former smokers. I’ having a hard time believing that both the ayurvedic message and yours, is to make other people feel small for making uneducated mistakes. I hope in time your posts will be more filled with non-judgmental wisdom, making ayurveda more available and understandable to people who wish to take greater care of their health, without having the opportunity to diverge their lives fully and completely to it, like you have. Thanks for sharing.

    • Thank you for your comment soakedtealeaves, love the name.

      Sorry about your cold, i can assume it s a head cold since that is what the coconut oil would possibly do. Thank you for the proof and sorry you had to be the victim.

      Just the quick answer……. yes a bit agitated and then again not at all. Kinda a bipolar thing.

      It is what it is.

      The other side, because in living in the world of health and healing for 25 years, I have watched the surge of the health field and along with it has come a great irresponsibility and sales. It actually goes completely against “health” doesn’t it?I mean the health of people, not the health of one’s bank account.

      I continually get to a point that i find it overwhelmingly impractical to try to teach real ayurveda.
      1. it is an amazingly deep science that takes years of study to understand.
      2. It is not in a paradigm of take this to relieve this as it takes the entire life of someone into account and I just don’t see how this can possibly work within the Western paradigm at all.
      3. When you look thru the lens of Ayurveda, you see our Western world, yes, i am here too. You see it as a really disease forming mess in every way. Literally. It is heart wrenching. Then to have people want to argue against a 10,000 year old time tested science because their own ignorance or to have people selling as it is not which only hurts people and destroys Ayurveda, well it kinda wears on me after a while. So some of my posts reflect that.
      4. Just as you got a cold from following what is assumed to be good information but is only a popular trend, this is case and point to my frustration. With all the noise out there in the health world, how would you know the difference? Then to have the detailed knowledge and wisdom of this beautiful science and watch it be disintegrated by our greed and fear…… and you are a victim in the meantime. And with that you do not know the consequences of what has been done. It is not within our paradigm to see the cause and effect.

      I think that explains my tone and my words. If I did not shout, you would not hear me. :)
      Thanks for your comment

  2. Interesting. Glad you commented on the other post. It makes more sense that oil pulling should be part of an overall program, rather than a “miracle” cure.
    Many natural treatments are often touted as a cure for things that really don’t relate to a treatment!

    It took awhile to read your offering, but worthwhile. I think I have a better understanding of what is going on with the body when using this process. Thank you for sharing.

    • Thank you for your comment Artagene. There is so much detail and a whole different paradigm to understand, or try to, when it comes to Ayurveda. It is a pleasure to hear your comprehension of it.

  3. This is very impressive & gave me a Lot of insight! I just turned 50(yikes) & after all these years, I now am just thinking a little healthier. That is why I am here reading this..Because of what i have read about oil pulling, so thanks for stopping me! I smoked for years, & drank soft drinks like crazy! so after taking my oral health for granted, & watching my teeth get darker. I was reading about it. I’m not going to lie. I am very ignorant to all! But I think I will just stick with warm water for the time being, until my eyes water. Thank you again!
    Sshangie

    • Thank you for your comment Angela. Yes, I agree. With everything that I have learned over the past 25 years of studying this stuff, it shocks me everyday to open my eyes to the ignorance of what is health in the modern world and the sales of THINGS outside of ourselves as touted health. You have it all within you already, really. We just don’t have the wisdom in this culture of a melting pot.
      Your teeth darkening is actually the health of the bone tissue. You may want to get a bone density test to check on em. My mother used to have osteoporosis. Not anymore. There are things that can be done but not in the Western model.
      Good luck, and keep up the learning.

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    • Hey, Thanks for the link and plug. I wish you had also quoted the statement of following a strict ayurvedic diet as well as the need for the treatment to have sudation and fomation prior. But a plug is a plug right. Although the scientist will come up with high carb diets it is still not correct. any heavy diet will cause severe problems with this treatment. Problem is that the effects are not felt right away and they won’t go away with any western treatments either. Think of having a chronic congestion for the rest of your life. Is it worth all the fooling around with stuff that we don’t understand from a totally different context?

      Unfortunately, your not the only one that is gonna have side effects of the “harmless” oil pulling.

      I actually feel like pulling the entire blog down for the amount of flak i get from ignorant people saying how it can’t happen and stuff.

      Remember you heard it here first and only.

      Good luck with your trials and experiments.

      • My goodness; you know I made my post as a ‘heads up’ to people about what could happen. I obviously don’t have your background in this field and even I have been shocked at the idiotic comments I get!! So I definitely hear you on that one. But in all honesty–I’d say keep it up and ignore those nay-sayers. But of course it’s your decision. :)

      • Sorry darling, I removed a portion that must have had it in it but it is down at the bottom in the part:

        Only to be done:

        When the sun is shining and the day is devoid of breeze

        After fomenting and massaging the shoulders and neck

        Retain the liquid in the mouth until the mouth gets full of kapha (mucous in this case), and the eyes and nose have secretions

        It gets pretty nasty with the comments. It is like I am preaching against someones religion or something. Thanks again. If you wanna talk about what is going on and any side effects just send me a mail. Brad.yantzer@gmail.com.

        I don’t really want to be putting out all of the details of this treatment because people are going to use it irresponsibly much like what is already going on. I don’t wanna feed the fire. My intent was to inform what you wrote about the article actually, so thanks again.

        The fact that you had the reaction (sorry you went thru that) that you did states much about your situation in general that need attention. I would advise you not to do anymore oil pulling, sorry.

      • Hi again, I will definitely be emailing you, like right now… Because I wanted to ask your honest opinion on something if you don’t mind. I totally understand your frustrations, but I also don’t see why you should have to constantly ‘battle’ all those people, especially when you’re trying to help!

  5. I truly appreciate you writing this post. I’ve linked it in my own post where I had a quite drastic reaction to coconut oil OP (which I realize could be due to different things). But it’s just shocking to me how rarely this is talked about! I appreciate you reminding others of the several factors involved when choosing to take on a new health practice. Wishing you all the best! :)

  6. you specifically lament the use of coconut oil for oil pulling but from what little bit i understand, the whole idea of oil pulling (by the western culture’s idea) is wrong? by which i mean people don’t follow the correct usage or methods and don’t eat the right things, basically don’t understand what they are doing…
    what about the people who praise oil pulling (typically they use sesame oil) and claim that it helps them? are they lying or does it have hidden, adverse side effects later on from not doing it exactly as the science behind it dictates?

    i am slightly confused and i come only seeking your wisdom. (not here to bash or invoke your wrath)

    note: i don’t oil pull, i just recently heard about it, became curious, and started digging and discovered your site. just wondering about the benefits people claim and why it would work if they aren’t following the rules.

    • Rachel,

      Thanks so much for commenting.
      I will do my best to explain. Without a wrath. :)
      Just because i care about what is going on out there to peoples health and the ridiculousness of it all gets pretty over whelming that my passion for ayurveda and peoples lives…. well sometimes it gets loud. Plus, i think this explains better anything you might take as anger or wrath in my posts. http://trueayurveda.wordpress.com/2014/03/09/this-is-what-happens-when-spiritual-paths-are-bastardized/

      #1 You see, ayurveda does not work within the paradigm of western thought. If you read the research article i linked on that post you might get a bit from that. The best I can say is that Ayurveda works in what we would consider a quantum logic but actually much more. Our science has only started to understand quantum as they have named it although the vedic sciences all are based in it and had it mapped out in detail long ago. Our sciences are not the best and advanced as we have been taught to believe.

      #2 the general masses have no template for understanding what is healthy or not, they follow what is popular like Dr. Oz is right now and what he says is the word of god but he is only a surgeon with 2 hrs of education in nutrition. Not bashing him. He is helping people, kind of. Harming from my lens.

      #3 how do you explain subtle things to a crowd who is excessively numb and always looking for more stimulation due to the numbness? I don’t mean to put anyone down. Not at all. You can ask anyone who actually meditates and doesn’t live in the crazy western world of desire fulfillment and they will agree whole heartedly with what i just said.

      #4 so with that, what is there to diagnose, I mean real diagnosis that what they are doing with coconut oil is actually helping. Nothing. It is all based upon their experience. Given what i stated in the last two can you see how that might be skewed?
      I could say alot of things, which i have in other posts, that the masses would disagree with. I would tell you that Bikram Yoga has absolutely nothing to do with yoga and from a yogic lens it is very disease forming and imbalancing. Lots of people would disagree, because of their lack of knowledge of what yoga, their attachment to identification with Bikram yoga, and their lack of experience. It is a limited experience. Yet i would tell you that the word yoga is synonymous with samadhi and nirodha. It is a state in which there are seven levels of samadhi or a state in which the prana and the mind still, one is out of the mind. How is this, true (and you can look it up) yoga (not my opinion) having anything to do with a class that is based in externalization and breaking down the body, force, excess exertion… the list goes on. Nothing in common. Just because they are having an experience does mean it is yoga nor does it mean what i just wrote is actually incorrect or even judgmental like I have been accused of many times.

      #5 I have tested ayurveda myself, I have pretended things don’t matter and that the text could be wrong. Every time I am bit in the ass and hard. I end up creating my own suffering. The science is complete, just only up to the capacity of the person’s education and knowledge.

      #6 Coconut oil could possibly be okay for someone that has bleeding disorders and stuff along those lines but then kavala is contraindicated for those diseases anyway so it would not be done.

      #7 Here is western science research for you to back up what I am saying. http://www.carbohydratescankill.com/forums/general-questions/negative-about-coconut-oil

      Just as Dr Oz made the neti pot go from $10 to $35 over night and all of the West started to do it, there was an incident in new Orleans. Two people died of brain eating amoebas. From doing neti pot with tap water.
      Look it up. https://www.google.com/search?q=neti+pot+brain+eating+amoebas&oq=neti+pot+brain+eating+amoebas&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.9902j0j4&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=91&ie=UTF-8
      Now with my education and experience, what has been found as the culprit to their brain eating amoebas is utterly absurd. Tap water is chlorinated and cleaned. Even if it was tainted in some way, it is nothing compared to the water of India where neti pot has been done for how long??????? With what kind of water??????? Not filter or treated, just out of a river that others have been doing all sorts of stuff in up stream. Yet it seems to me that nothing like this has ever happened in India. When we look closer at what happened we see why. No one is actually teaching correctly how to dry the sinuses after doing neti. It is not in all these american books of yoga and neti. so what happens to the water that is left in your sinuses without your knowledge? What happens when someone already has a condition that they are not conscious of having, like slight congestion all the time? And then that water sits in it. Well… you guessed it. brain eating amoebas. Yes, i am actually making it up logically though. This is most likely what happened because the actual full knowledge was not given out to the masses. In my view, Dr. Oz is actually a murderer. Yes, it was those two people that died, it was their responsibility to find out all the facts about it before doing it but who do you know that reads the operating instructions of anything before powering it up and turning it on these days. (That would be more proof about the ignorance of people) But also this knowledge is not easily accessible with all the junk on the net today. Just look at the oil pulling as an example. Who is writing these articles and blogs and then even when someone that is supposed to have that knowledge writes a blog, they have to write it in a quick 30 second clip to keep the limited attention span of people. (and even more to say about the modern culture of today) Look at my blog. Who do you think actually reads the entire post? I can’t believe many. But look at how long it takes to try to give some actual real knowledge to what this is and why and how to do it, yet i haven’t actually told everything about it, just superficially actually. And i still have people commenting about how they are right and i am wrong. It amazes me.

      If you look at the other comments you will see two others down there of people that have had bad stuff happen to them. What they don’t have any comprehension of is what they have actually created. Ayurveda is very very detailed, amazingly so. We live in a compartmentalized world of linear thinking in the west. It is just the way it is. We don’t understand that something can have lasting effects beyond us feeling good in the moment. Did you realize if i was to diagnose you i would need to do a complete health history and it would tie everything together telling a story to me that would lead exactly to where you are now. From that i could even predict and be very correct about what would happen next, even within which month. This is Ayurveda. It deals with the root of the cause and not a symptom whereas our western sciences and paradigm only see the symptom.

      and then again, this http://www.carbohydratescankill.com/forums/general-questions/negative-about-coconut-oil

      The western sciences are slowly starting to change. It is very hard to change a paradigm though. Specially when it has a ton of fear riding it around health and boundaries and identity.

      Read this: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/21/science/new-truths-that-only-one-can-see.html?_r=0
      Yes, it is western research on western research but explains alot. I plan on doing a post of this stuff.

      Remember when soy was so good for you and best for women’s hormones and mens? Were people not buying it and using it like mad? Where they not saying that they felt better? Was it not still messing up their hormones yet Western research had not proved that yet?

      Read the posts on juicing and raw food.
      Although people feel good doing it, it is actually very vata aggravating as any ayurveda Doctor will tell you. The increase in vata makes someone feel lighter. But who said that is good? Did you know that being depleted feels good? Yes, imbalancing prana is like getting high. Really. Doesn’t mean it is good. It creates disease. It takes vata to create a disease, pitta and kapha are completely passive and cannot do anything without vata. Which is why all of yoga asana is about balancing prana. Prana is responsible for all sensory and neuromuscular actions in the entire body. it makes your physiology work properly. Peristalsis is just one. Example is that if you go up in a plane, vata = prana goes up. When you land it can stay up and you will have constipation. Dryness. Etc. but because we don’t understand this or feel energy = prana, as it doesn’t actually exist in the 1 dimensional western world except in woo woo healing modalities, well how are we to know?

      I hope i answered your question.

      Kinda hard to explain why people have an experience of something and I am saying that it is not actually correct. I know how hard that is to believe. There is just much more than we understand.

      Maybe i can say it like this… Ayurveda has 20 types of diabetes and over half are curable. Western Medicine sees two, type a and type b. Both are incurable but manageable. Why is there a discrepancy between the two? Because western medicine thinks that it is a sugar problem. That is a symptom. Not the problem. the problem is actually a water problem, not sugar. Working with the sugar levels will only make it manageable at best. Working with the water will cure the disease n some cases depending upon what of the 20 types there are.

      It is a completely different paradigm.
      Welcome to it if you have the courage to be open minded enough. It is a great ride. :)

  7. Mr trueayurveda,
    First I would like to thank you for writing this blog. I was actually in the beginning stages of researching oil pulling for my speech class when I realized that there wasn’t much “Western” studies on the subject. Hence I was having a hard time trying to gather true evidence for using oil pulling as an alternative dental hygiene treatment. That is when I came upon this blog and realized that I truly couldn’t give a speech on a topic that I certainly didn’t know about and whose true origin is part of a health system different from what here in the U.S. would consider medicine.
    I myself have been oil pulling for 2 weeks now (with coconut oil, oops). Although I did see whiter teeth and less gum bleeding, I began to have a side effect I didn’t want to admit-I was having insomnia.
    What you say makes all kinds of sense. I have always felt that the body is more “complicated” that what we think it is; meaning, taking one pill and doing some fad diet is not a cure all event. We eat so hurried and so much in this country that i believe people have stopped paying attention to what they are truly eating. The way I see as a road to holistic health is one which takes many years of practice and understanding: of yourself, your inner soul, what to eat, how to eat, proper exercise. But because this takes time, people don’t want to deal with it. Therefore, people are always looking for a cure all.
    I see now that my speech is going to focus on the myths about oil pulling, without trying to offend the audience.
    One question: any advice you can give a young college student like myself who wants to practice life lasting health habits? :)
    Once again, thanks for this blog and best wishes on your journey

    • Thank you Raciel. I appreciate your comments. I would ask you a question that might guide you into some deeper exploration into self. Why are you worried about offending anyone? You know that i can write just the word IGNORANCE and so many people take offense. Why? Can I be concerned about them taking offence? If I continue to worry about how to reach people that are creating all sorts of stuff on their own that blocks them I will never actually be in any truth of my own. Instead everything i will say will be wrapped in a bubblegum wrapper so that it can sell on the terms of the person that is being offended easily. This means I am not doing myself or them any good. If they get offended, maybe just maybe, they might look at why they are offended. I am not trying to offend anyone so it is on their account that they are being offended. If I do contort my phrasing it means i am manipulating what I am saying to try to sell someone something. Think about it. Communication is a two way street. Can you have an intelligent educational conversation with a person that totally has different view point without getting offended and in the end everyone learning? There is also something else in our western world that is missing. A humbleness and honoring that someone might actually know something. Our education system has no lineage, just a quick learning to pass exams and tests and then thrown out into the world to make money. Their is no indepth study of an art or profession with a wise teacher that is handing down the trade as well as the trade secrets over many years of service from the student. Today is a quick certification and you are off selling something. So there is a disregard for wisdom. Everything has turned into subjective opinion only and religion. Dogma. Just some thoughts that i am sure might stir the pot for your round table.

      To answer the last question about where to learn a practice life lasting health habits…… well considering that has been my path for the last 25 years…….. I would ask you how deep do you wanna get. There are many levels. Not all paths lead to the same place contrary to the self absorbed spiritual thought that tends to be out there. Where is your trajectory? What is the life you will live? Another way I could say it all is that hardly anyone is really willing to do what it really a yogic life. Is it for everyone? No. Not at all. To go against one’s nature has drastic horrible results. Creates mental and psychic problems and disease. So it is a longer conversation rather than me telling you of a teacher that would teach you something. Email me: Brad.yantzer@gmail.com if you wanna continue the conversation.

      To all your being….

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